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audioxtreme
Join date: 2009-09-21 Trade: Posts: 63
 | Subject: They'll try to sell you anything Fri May 28, 2010 2:59 pm | |
| wild imaginations, just what is the point and what are these people trying to achieve? fixing a problem that isn't even there?
I present to you, NuForce magic Boxes,
Inside you''ll find some little under paid fairies working extremely hard for their living.
http://www.stereotimes.com/acc042610.shtml |
|  | | Fnuckle
Join date: 2010-04-03 Trade: Posts: 205
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Fri May 28, 2010 3:11 pm | |
| Saw the word 'Quantum'. Stopped at that point.
I imagine it encourages Tau-muons to change their angle of charm. This naturally excites the NS5-brane, polytransformates the nearest multiverse quantum doorway, while disentangling omichron particles thanks to a chronatonic wave formation produced by simply plugging this thing in.
The result, of course, is increased transparency, better dynamics and wider soundstaging. If you plug it in backwards, though, you risk destroying the universe.
So be careful.
I should build my own magic box. I'll call it the Audio Refining System Enhancer, I'll charge $1,000 and I'll sell a bunch of them. I've always wanted to make a grand selling a bunch of A.R.S.E. |
|  | | Joker

Join date: 2009-09-07 Trade: Posts: 1339
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Fri May 28, 2010 4:03 pm | |
| I like this mans style  |
|  | | Ozexpat

Join date: 2010-04-02 Trade: Posts: 646 Location: Oxfordshire Age: 52
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Fri May 28, 2010 7:29 pm | |
| | Fnuckle wrote: | | I'll call it the Audio Refining System Enhancer, I'll charge $1,000 and I'll sell a bunch of them. I've always wanted to make a grand selling a bunch of A.R.S.E. |
You should come and work for me in the Performance Related Accronym Team ! |
|  | | sceptic
Join date: 2009-09-08 Posts: 145
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Fri May 28, 2010 8:06 pm | |
| Here is another little must have pearl to lighten your wallet.  We highly recommend the Audio Desk Systeme, a unique motorized cutting device manufactured in Germany. Designed to “true” the shape of the CD to reduce mechanical jitter, the ADS also trims the edge of the CD to a 38° angle to reduce laser scatter. This new edge is then treated with the included black marker. This 60-second process results in pronounced improvements in focus, transient attack, detail and transparency. The included hardened cutting blade trims about 2000 CDs. “This is a 'must have' product for anyone really interested in maximizing the potential of their CD/SACD collection. The price is reasonable and the construction and presentation of the product is outstanding. The results are simply quite staggering!” - Richard Foster, HiFi+, Issue 44 |
|  | | Timbo

Join date: 2009-09-04 Trade: Posts: 429
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Sat May 29, 2010 9:48 am | |
| I'm really surprised by this from NuForce, I ask myself why? they have no need a just seem to be churning out products for products sake, I'd expect something a little bit better. They started out with class D based amplifiers that had a few problems but the later versions are supposedly very good, but of late they have for some unfathomable reason also rebranded an oppo blu ray player, but why? do they really need to go down that road? Also they have headphones, servers and now the really low point for NuForce, this, why don't they just stick to what they are good at, I see no need for them the get involved in these style of products. |
|  | | dvv

Join date: 2009-10-20 Trade: Posts: 3262 Location: Serbia Age: 58
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Sat May 29, 2010 5:52 pm | |
| | Timbo wrote: | | I'm really surprised by this from NuForce, I ask myself why? they have no need a just seem to be churning out products for products sake, I'd expect something a little bit better. They started out with class D based amplifiers that had a few problems but the later versions are supposedly very good, but of late they have for some unfathomable reason also rebranded an oppo blu ray player, but why? do they really need to go down that road? Also they have headphones, servers and now the really low point for NuForce, this, why don't they just stick to what they are good at, I see no need for them the get involved in these style of products. |
Ah, but it may turn out to be lucrative. It's announce new products or perish game. |
|  | | Davey.J
Join date: 2009-10-12 Posts: 16
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Sun May 30, 2010 9:16 am | |
| Are people that easily forgot? |
|  | | Richard Black
Join date: 2009-12-03 Trade: Posts: 58
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Sun May 30, 2010 10:22 am | |
| Fnuckle - I'll review it... for the usual consideration of course....  |
|  | | Fnuckle
Join date: 2010-04-03 Trade: Posts: 205
 | |  | | malteser

Join date: 2010-01-04 Trade: Posts: 1183 Location: UK Age: 48
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:28 pm | |
| You can't know something won't work until you've tried it. Maybe it's pseudo-science, maybe it's actual science, maybe it's all conjecture, but until you've tried it there is no point at all in poo-pooing it.
Note: Not a NuForce dealer, and not a fan of their products, but I dislike it when people dismiss products out of hand because 'it can't possibly work'. |
|  | | dvv

Join date: 2009-10-20 Trade: Posts: 3262 Location: Serbia Age: 58
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:49 pm | |
| | malteser wrote: | You can't know something won't work until you've tried it. Maybe it's pseudo-science, maybe it's actual science, maybe it's all conjecture, but until you've tried it there is no point at all in poo-pooing it.
Note: Not a NuForce dealer, and not a fan of their products, but I dislike it when people dismiss products out of hand because 'it can't possibly work'. |
Completely agreed!
There were a few times when very cheap gear, of which one doesn't really expect anything, goes fruitcake and produces rather good sounds, WAY better than expected.
I've been served very good, even excellent, sound quality by a few products which, judging from their construction, they couldn't possibly do, yet they do it.
And I've heard very mediocre sound from brliiant schemtics products.
So, until you actually try, don't bet on anything. It's too risky. |
|  | | Fnuckle
Join date: 2010-04-03 Trade: Posts: 205
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:39 pm | |
| | malteser wrote: | You can't know something won't work until you've tried it. Maybe it's pseudo-science, maybe it's actual science, maybe it's all conjecture, but until you've tried it there is no point at all in poo-pooing it.
Note: Not a NuForce dealer, and not a fan of their products, but I dislike it when people dismiss products out of hand because 'it can't possibly work'. |
Whether it works is not really the issue. To say it works due to spintronics is questionable. Spintronics is about designing magnetoresistive memory for computers and might be the next big thing in semiconductor design. Practical applications of spintronics are speculative at best, and prototyping is taking place at companies like Motorola and IBM, who were throwing money at top-tech universities when there was money to be thrown about.
Spintronics is a 'now' buzzword, because it's an emerging technology. You could also say its got memristors in there, because they sound very 'now' too and only exist in the lab at this time.
Chances are, the developer happened upon something that alters the sound. Having discovered this sound-changing thing, said developer trawls through Wikipedia in search of some emergent technology that sounds vaguely similar. Mixes the two together and comes up with quantum tunnelling/spintronics/carbon nanotubes/programmable matter explanations for something that happened more by luck than judgment. |
|  | | bushytip

Join date: 2010-05-22 Trade: Posts: 1247 Age: 30
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:22 am | |
| | Fnuckle wrote: | | malteser wrote: | You can't know something won't work until you've tried it. Maybe it's pseudo-science, maybe it's actual science, maybe it's all conjecture, but until you've tried it there is no point at all in poo-pooing it.
Note: Not a NuForce dealer, and not a fan of their products, but I dislike it when people dismiss products out of hand because 'it can't possibly work'. |
Whether it works is not really the issue. To say it works due to spintronics is questionable. Spintronics is about designing magnetoresistive memory for computers and might be the next big thing in semiconductor design. Practical applications of spintronics are speculative at best, and prototyping is taking place at companies like Motorola and IBM, who were throwing money at top-tech universities when there was money to be thrown about.
Spintronics is a 'now' buzzword, because it's an emerging technology. You could also say its got memristors in there, because they sound very 'now' too and only exist in the lab at this time.
Chances are, the developer happened upon something that alters the sound. Having discovered this sound-changing thing, said developer trawls through Wikipedia in search of some emergent technology that sounds vaguely similar. Mixes the two together and comes up with quantum tunnelling/spintronics/carbon nanotubes/programmable matter explanations for something that happened more by luck than judgment. |
How the hell do u know all this!......Uve got to many fingers in too many pies!....How on earth can u pick ur nose! |
|  | | dvv

Join date: 2009-10-20 Trade: Posts: 3262 Location: Serbia Age: 58
 | Subject: Re: They'll try to sell you anything Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:05 am | |
| Of course, the electronics industry, like any other, is full of new buzzwords. Everybody and their dog are looking for the next best thing. And it usually turns out that few, if any, of the current crop ever make it big, rather something else altogether creeps out of the shadows and makes a big bang.
And all too often, it goes in circles. Some things we had disappear, only to resurface in a new guise some years, decades even, in a new suit and be hailed as the next best thing. Case in point - integrated power amplifier voltage gain stage.
Many years ago, National Sermiconductor had an idea. Why force designers to design new power amplifier gain and protection stages every time around, why not make an integrated circuit (IC) which will have all that built in and be very programmable, so as not to spoil the individuality of each designer? So, in the late 70-ies, they introduced LM 391N-xxx, where "xxx" denoted the maximum operating voltage, this being 60, 80 or 100 Volts. They also provided very detailed instruction for its use, for example, in their 1980 publication AUDIO/RADIO HANDBOOK, they provide specific examples and all the necessary maths for any audio buff, let alone professional engineers, to design their own power amps in a wide range of outputs.
Having done that, I can attest to the fact that this worked very, VERY well indeed. Yet, the chip was gone from the catalog a few years later, for lack of general interest. I think that was because it came too early for its own good.
And it resurfaced in anew guise, as LME 49811, and in two guises, one for bipolar, and the other for MOSFET output power stages (LME 49830). Much more flexible, double the current drive from before, incomparably lower distortion, etc. It DIDN'T come as a buzzword, rather it came quitely, but it is already beginning to change the shape of the audio industry. It's simple to use, it's versatile (up to +/- 100V!), it has the required protection ciruits (fully programmable) and it's cheap.
My point being that in many cases, products and technologies arrive with no buzzwords and get down to it, while everybody is investigating the buzzords, most of which will not have the same impact despite the fame. Buzzwords are like mountain streams, fast and furious, but often small, but there are also wide, slow plains rivers, and it's often these that carry all the silt. |
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