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vinyl junkie
Join date: 2009-09-24 Posts: 59
 | Subject: Phono stage drops (list the phono stages you have tried) Mon May 03, 2010 6:56 pm | |
| Another one for Phono stages, what phono stages have you tried, with with turntable and describe the sound for us all. |
|  | | JSBach

Join date: 2009-10-10 Trade: Posts: 1044 Location: Australia
 | Subject: Re: Phono stage drops (list the phono stages you have tried) Mon May 03, 2010 11:44 pm | |
| | vinyl junkie wrote: | | Another one for Phono stages, what phono stages have you tried, with with turntable and describe the sound for us all. |
That's a big ask! I've been playing this game now for decades and wouldn't know where to start if I listed them all. The one's that have impressed me the most are sadly not cheap. Boulder's 1008 I found wonderfully dynamic with a bottom end that rivals the best of digital. Anatek's MCR is fabulous and the only solid state phono preamp I've heard that provides the depth of field and emotionality my Manley 'Steelhead' valve phono preamp gives. The 'Steelhead' doesn't have the degree of bass slam the Boulder does but the Boulder doesn't have it's goose bump inducing musicality. Of the more sanely priced phono preamps I think the best was Musical Fidelity's LP2, a three box (3cans really) model no longer available and sadly hardly ever appearing on eBay. Graham Slee's models are all worth the money and some of them are very flexible. I won't go into 'what turntable' etc....we'll be here all night. This is necessarily going to sound like audiophile snobbery but it's my firm belief, after a lifetime of struggling with the problems of LP reproduction, you need to spend silly amounts of money to get anywhere near the best obtainable off well recorded LP's. You don't however need to spend silly money on exotic, fragile and temperamental moving coils. Some modern moving magnets, such as Garrot Bros http://www.garrottbrothers.com/ can wipe the floor with moving coils costing silly money. Oh....and here's where I ride my favorite hobby horse. Every cent you spend on LP reproduction is wasted until and unless you invest in a vacuum/liquid LP cleaning machine. |
|  | | adam

Join date: 2009-09-05 Trade: Posts: 4281 Location: Spain Age: 42
 | Subject: Re: Phono stage drops (list the phono stages you have tried) Tue May 04, 2010 9:20 pm | |
| My first was the Creek OBH8 with a Rega P25, what a revelation, cart was a shure V15III and it just gelled, that creek was a right bargain, brilliant. Next up was a Sonneteer Sedly, better than than Creek but not a huge margain, the Sonneteer sedly sounded more open, spacious, and charming, the Creek was more bubbly.
Next was a Dynavector P75 with the Rega P25 and a Dynavector DV17III, this was more attacking the Sonneteer, not better more different, it has great speed, clarity and attack.
The best is my latest addition and that is the new AstinTrew AT8000, jeez is this thing good, give it 200 hours to seetle as it sounded a bit bloomy and bommy in the bass while being run in, but once you've got it set up correctly it's a lovely stage, very open, sweet and musical, a big step over the Dynavector which has many fans, but I think the AstinTrew is a much better stage, it's pricey but it's worth it as it really is very good. My little denon DL110 is holding the system back, the deck now is the VPI scoutmaster. |
|  | | colin

Join date: 2009-10-10 Trade: Posts: 633 Location: north lincs
 | Subject: Re: Phono stage drops (list the phono stages you have tried) Mon May 10, 2010 8:22 pm | |
| kind of veering away a bit, So I'll get back to topic in a minute. I have a DL110, currently playing through a Rega MC stage, and after a fair bit of faffing around with the settings, its really singing is heart out. Diane Krall has got a voice that can reach out of the speakers, up your back and unfasten your braces. Which brings me to the point, just where do you go from a 110. Nothing in the ortofon range short of £800 is going to do it, I'm not much keen on Lyra's voicing, the 110 more than lives with the Dyn 10 x 5, and hangs right on the 20x's coat tails. I like the denon 304, but fearits very low output my be a problem.. so where next.
Right stages, I have had Slee's, good value for money, creeks little OB? bloody good value for money, borrowed a suggie for a while, the most open sounding stage, but stifled attack a little.
I am currently using either a MM stage built into my pre amp, or the Rega MC. Hiving had the chance to play with a P9. ios, and apheta, and should the lottery chuck some cash my way, Rega would be getting a good chunk of it. For a simple, easy to use, and set up, complete vinyl playback system it makes some decidedly expensive, and fiddly systems sound very average. |
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