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Mark E Smith



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PostSubject: tonearm Finger lifts   Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:50 pm

Tonearms with staight finger lifts. Whats all that about?
I use my finger lift on every LP. As I have a spring suspended deck I find using the lifting mechanism can make the stylus hop around horribly at the end of the record so...It's finger under the headshell lifting arm, up and onto the rest.Then up with the cueing arm lever to let it lower nice and gentle on to the lead in grooves on the next one. Just gives me time to get to my chair and snuggle down...Luverly .
Why then are companys bringing out arms in this day and age with straight arm lifts, sticking out horizontally so even me with my skinny digits can't get under them?
I would steer away from any arm with a straight lift...thank god for rega !!! Razz
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:37 am

Same deck, same arm, same opinion! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:11 am

GET IN !!!!!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:03 am

mark e smith wrote:
GET IN !!!!!! cheers

Well thats' odd. I've never had any problem using the straight finger lift on my JMW 'Memorial' arm. What is it with you klutzes?
Mind you I have gotten into trouble fingering straights before but that's another subject.
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:27 pm

oh my VPI is like that, gives me the shivers lining her up, give me a Rega or Jelco, but the Memorial 9 is a nice arm though.
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:15 am

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oh my VPI is like that, gives me the shivers lining her up, give me a Rega or Jelco, but the Memorial 9 is a nice arm though.
Mine's the 12.5 - I like having the extra length to play with. cyclops
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:58 pm

you must have fingers like tooth picks JS. No way can I get my fingers underneath a straight finger lift.
It just seems a silly thing which can easily be made right but seems to be ignored ...maybe some people make things but never use them in real life ?
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:32 am

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you must have fingers like tooth picks JS. No way can I get my fingers underneath a straight finger lift.
It just seems a silly thing which can easily be made right but seems to be ignored ...maybe some people make things but never use them in real life ?

And some people have fingers like gorillas.
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:15 am

I'm 6 feet !" and weight 12 stone js...my fingers are like skeletons fingers but I still cant get em under a finger lift comfortably ...I'm just asking why ??
Does no one else think it's daft ?
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:46 am

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I'm 6 feet !" and weight 12 stone js...my fingers are like skeletons fingers but I still cant get em under a finger lift comfortably ...I'm just asking why ??
Does no one else think it's daft ?
AH HA ! We might be getting to the bottom of this difference of opinion. I don't use a finger lift by just putting a finger under mine. I grasp the lift on the JMW 'Memorial' 12.5 between my thumb and forefinger. Hope that explains my dexterity.
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:14 pm

Mind you some of the finger lift can be small, I ve got small fingers too and I can just about get my finger under some of them, so those who may have sausage fingers are really going to struggle, my main problem with the VPI I find is that it wobbles due to the pivot design, so you need a steady hand to make sure you get it lined up correctly.
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:19 pm

Never ever not never would I dream of grabbing my lever in my fingers ( shut up bach )..recipe for disaster in my book on a suspended ( or non suspended for that matter )deck.
Under and lift is the way...Maybe thats the problem? Manufacturers don't think of the potential damage to records and styli by trying to use the old pincer method ! Like I suggested, maybe they never use the things they design ???? Would'nt be the first time !
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:16 am

mark e smith wrote:
Never ever not never would I dream of grabbing my lever in my fingers ( shut up bach )..recipe for disaster in my book on a suspended ( or non suspended for that matter )deck.
Under and lift is the way...Maybe thats the problem? Manufacturers don't think of the potential damage to records and styli by trying to use the old pincer method ! Like I suggested, maybe they never use the things they design ???? Would'nt be the first time !
I think we've discovered yet another difference between your and my fingering technique MarkES. Shocked I move the arm with the lift between my thumb & forefinger over the point I want on and LP, let go my fingers, and THEN use the lowering device.
Lowering any arm manually is asking for trouble in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:24 am

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Then up with the cueing arm lever to let it lower nice and gentle on to the lead in grooves on the next one. Just gives me time to get to my chair and snuggle down...Luverly
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I allways lower with the device...it's lifting the damn thing I'm talking about !!
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PostSubject: Re: tonearm Finger lifts   Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:25 am

GRRRRRRR !! Mad
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